Judging from the comments to the previous post, there's still a lot of vitriol that needs to be worked out. Since I'll be working on another project for most of the day and then leaving town until next Friday, I'll leave you this open thread to talk amongst yourselves until Wendy gets back.
Enjoy your weekend downa' shore.
Comments (18)
Vitriol I like that... sharp , incisive and biting.
Oh boy ! sounds like a one-way circular road junction ahead about to come with tantalizing differences.
Posted by Jasper Zeigler Jr | May 24, 2007 3:28 PM
You're going to argue around in circles with somebody for an indefinite period of time?
Posted by Anonymous | May 24, 2007 5:01 PM
Yeah Anonymous... Going around in circles. Reminds of the dog chasing the tail. I don't see the point of this .. What's it called again > reverse psychology.
Posted by Jasper Zeigler Jr | May 25, 2007 8:22 AM
Morning :
This is the getaway day for the unofficial start of summer and folks are climbing into their vehicles to make the Memorial Day Weekend happen although gas prices are high averging $ 3.23 a gallon.
So what would make people change their mind.
According to a ABC News poll. Gasoline would have to reach $ 4.38 a gallon before Americans would significantly cut back on their driving.
Anyone agree or disagree.
Posted by Jasper Zeigler Jr | May 25, 2007 8:45 AM
People seem to be buying more hybrid cars these days, and at least some of it has to do with higher gasoline prices. But even these "high" prices are still too low to save enough money on gas to make up for the extra cost of most hybrids. Although with the incentives they now seem to be offering on Prius, that car might make a difference.
Still, overall, the cost of operating a vehicle is nothing compared to the cost of buying it in the first place. Taxi drivers like to complain, but they drive like, well, taxi drivers. They have themselves to blame, at least in part, for their low gas mileage.
Posted by Plokozhopsky | May 25, 2007 9:36 AM
Hey Polokozhopsky :
I've been hearing the same thing about people buying more hybrid cars these days. One of the things that bothers me about this type of automobile. I'm not really up on the mechanics of its composition and the real cost of operating it.
Posted by Jasper Zeigler Jr | May 25, 2007 10:15 AM
Worth Repeating!!!!!
John Doc's Record in the Primary for 2007:
Losses:
Anastasia 1st Distict (Smoked by Di Cicco)
Roberts 2nd District (Anhiliated by Verna)
Jim Kenney #1 Vote getter (really kills DOC!)
Doc personally set his sights on Kenney and Doc got SMOOOOOOOOOKED!!!!!
Sharif Street (Doc's deal fell short and this kid is better than Bill Green)
Sean Kennedy MC Judge (the Irish requirement failed)
Tom "Fraud" Knox (exposed and rejected with Doc at the wheel early on this one!
Wins:
Bill Green ( a real step backward - there were better candidates)
Ceisler (Judge) (here Doc is looking for a vote for his brother for DA if Lynn steps down.)
Janie Hackwell (ran unopposed but she has been aligned with Doc for too long and the people are sarting to see that she is really difficult to look at and continues to lead West Philly into a deeper abyss)
As for Seamus - that is Brady's candidate. Doc had nothing to do with it! Seamus was for brady because he is loyal -a word that is foreign to Dougherty!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Facts not Controlled by Local 98 | May 26, 2007 5:20 PM
Jim Kenney SMOKED John Dougherty!
Jim Kenney SMOKED John Dougherty!
Jim Kenney SMOKED John Dougherty!
Jim Kenney SMOKED John Dougherty!
Jim Kenney SMOKED John Dougherty!
Jim Kenney SMOKED John Dougherty!
Posted by Non Union for a Reason | May 26, 2007 5:28 PM
Open Reminder to Michael Nutter and all good citizens of Philadelphia.
Remember who John Doc IS:
"Not Fuckin' Nutter!"
Johnny Doc counters our Nutter endorsement.
by Brian Hickey
Published: May 2, 2007
To hear John Dougherty tell it, Michael Nutter is a self-aggrandizing opportunist who takes credit for others' accomplishments, plays politics even when it comes to religion and hypocritically cries for ethics reform despite having no-bid-contract skeletons in his closet.
And that's just the stuff the union boss rattles off the top of his head. Dougherty says he has a whole notebook filled with more nuggets that he'd happily share.
"Listen, I don't have any problem with what he does, OK?" Dougherty explains, "but I have a major problem with how he portrays himself. It pisses me off. He seems to be this week's fad. I mean, Mike Nutter, Michael Nutter. I don't even know what he's going by these days. He changes positions as much as he changes his name."
We don;t forget DOugherty - YOU ARE YESTERDAY"S BAD NEWS!!!!!!
Posted by A New Philadelphia 2007 | May 26, 2007 5:44 PM
When life throws pork at you, make yourself a pizza and eat it with some lemonade and Shiner Bock.
Posted by Anonymous | May 27, 2007 3:06 PM
How can any Philadelphian go down to the Jersey Shore as it's being run right now and think that it's "just as it's supposed to be" when they spend time there -- the way it's being run right now? Our city at this point totally lacks checks and balances, while one of the things in the past that helped to stabilize it checks and balances wise was the way the Jersey Shore once was run compared to now. In the past the Jersey Shore meant freedom. The long Philly winter was over, the sweltering summer weather returned, and the Jersey Shore was the place to go. But that was when the Jersey Shore was free. No, make that FREE. But then outsiders to the Jersey Shore, those who clearly didn't get it and didn't want others to, wedged their way in there somehow and started up such assinine things as the anti-shoebie campaign, the introduction of beachtags, and so forth and so on. So nowadays when Philadelphians leave the city and head to the Jersey Shore when summer comes they do so with a muddled sense of how reality is supposed to be, just as it always was, but now they come back from the Jersey Shore with a muddled sense of how reality's supposed to be because of how totally screwed up the Jersey Shore is being run now. The checks and balances aspect the Jersey Shore once refreshingly provided is fully missing now. And leave it to our horrible Philly press not to tell it like it really is.
But just to do the big reality check, if you go down to the Jersey Shore now and come back a few days later thinking that "getaway" was "great," I'd say it's time to seriously worry about your mental stability, or instability I truthfully should say.
Posted by Steve W. | May 30, 2007 12:24 AM
Polokozhopsky :
This won't take us no where near in totally solving all gasoline enduring concerns it may help on the road of estimated thoughts.
http://gasbuddy.com
Posted by Jasper Zeigler Jr | May 30, 2007 8:20 AM
Every household has a version course and inspiring volumes of a daily life. How close is this projecting structure to yours.
http://inthemotherhood.msn.com/
Posted by Jasper Zeigler Jr | May 30, 2007 9:34 AM
I don't know, Jasper Zeigler. But I'll tell you what, I was at the City Council meeting today where the Fox Chase Cancer Center v. Burholme Park issue was front and center, and that renegade cancer center, with the help of Councilman Brian O'Neil, seems quite determined to eliminate Burholme at all costs. If they pull it off I'll call it America's version of Guernica. For Burholme is such a part of Philadelphia that it's whole identity centers on the presence of Burholme Park, or Burholme Park as we've always known it. That is, compromise that park in any way and it just won't be a Philly neighborhood we can realistically call Burholme anymore.
Which then got me thinking about our city on the grander scale. For what landmark can you name in Philadelphia over all that if it were suddenly missing or greatly compromised would render this no longer being Philadelphia anymore? Like if the Art Museum were suddenly plucked away, or Boat House Row, or Independence Mall, or City Hall, or, well you get the idea. Of the landmarks our city has, which would you say is our city's most defining? For I think we do have to start thinking that way on the road ahead, what with the trophy hunters out in force, as I witnessed today in the fox Chase Cancer Center entourage/legal team, not to mention Councilman O'Neill serving as a sort of hunters' guide on their behalf.
I know that years ago in Atlantic City's case when the casino moguls set out to break that city, they targetted the Marlboro-Blenheim Hotel first thing. The idea was to wipe out the main thing of evidence that Atlantic City had been capable of being great before without having to stoop to casinoization. The casinos kept other landmarks in place, such as the Boardwalk, Steel Pier, etc. But those things only demonstrated that A.C. was capable of being tacky at best. And anything tacky the casinos didn't see as a threat. But the Marlboro-Blenheim building, because it was such an architectural masterpiece, had to be done away with first thing as that was something else entirely.
So anyhow, getting back to my original premise, if you as a trophy hunter wanted take out Philadelphia as we now know it, which building, park, or whatever else you feel most defines our city over all would you mainly try to eliminate? remember, it has to be that which, without, or greatly compromised. this just wouldn't be Philadelphia anymore, it would be what used to be Philadelphia but then turned into something very blah.
Posted by Steve W. | May 30, 2007 11:05 PM
Heavy Steve W:
I didn't know or realize the Fox Chase Cancer Center had HealthCare issues or subsidiary location headaches. Burholme Park unfortunate I'm not familiar with.
Steve being of a " Military " definition , I would start with the major bridges , the water , highway and roads , powerplants , subways , mass transportation and the media , if I were eliminating Philly as we know it of my enemy or to showcase the trophy hunter in me.
Posted by Jasper Zeigler Jr | May 31, 2007 9:58 AM
Ah, you hit the nail straight on the head, Jasper Z. INFRASTRUCTURE. For that's the one thing the Fox Chase Cancer Center keeps refusing to address in its quest to expand at its current location, whether onto neighboring Burholme Park or upon it's own land. As things currently stand, there are no major highways anywhere close to where the Fox Chase Cancer Center is currently located, while the major arteries that do run close to there are very heavily trafficked as it is right now, while also heavily developed along both sides. Meaning that the existing major arteries cannot be cost effectively transformed so as to make its expansion at that location workable for all. But the cancer center's ongoing attitude has been: That's not our problem. There's also a sizeable water tower that rises up between Burholme Park and the cancer center which is extremely vital to that entire region where there are no major waterways. The cancer center has proposed expanding onto the land where that water tower stands to reduce how much it would have to expand onto neighboring Burholme Park....as if that water tower could be eliminated and all the communities that heavily rely on it could continue to exist. That giant water tower looming up over Burholme Park, although admittedly is an eccentric touch (some even say is an "eyesore"), in addition to its vitalness, is also a very important part of Burholme's longstanding identity. I would say it's the same as what Barnegat Light represents to Long Beach Island, N.J.
For case in point, if you eliminated the lighthouse from Barnegat Township on Long Beach Island would it still be Barnegat Township on Long Beach Island? If you took the Eiffel Tower away from Paris, France, would it still be Paris, France? Would Athens still be Athens without the Acropolis? St. Louis still be St. Louis without the Arch?
But in Burholme's case, it's great mark of identity, the water tower, is also a major part of its infrastructure. All aesthetics and historic considerations aside, at the bare basic infrastructural level Burholme could not exist without it.
And the park itself also constitutes a vital part of the infrastructure. Though by rights it should be made a little bit bigger with regard to the following, as it currently stands it serves as a major and vital watershed -- without which Burholme would suddenly be rendered uninahabitable.
But again on all these things the Fox Chase Cancer Center's response in its zeal to expand at its current location is: That's not our problem, with regard to what will happen if it is allowed to expand there.
And the demagoguery that's been going on up here with regard to this has been unbelievable. Playing upon the ignorance of many currently residing in that vicinity, most particularly those newly moved to the area, it actually has many people living right around there supporting its quest to expand at its current site. And it's got the Philadelphia Inquirer -- except for Inga Saffron -- fully siding with it, while the Northeast Times newspaper up here fully worships it. In brief, in that sense it's a trophy hunter's dream. Imagine you're a burglar and you go to burglarize somebody's house, and rather than putting up resistance those residing in the house plus the local police go all out to make sure every point of entry is fully open to you.
Posted by Steve W. | June 1, 2007 3:35 AM
COMMENTING TO NON UNION FOR A REASON - HE CAN'T EVEN THINK WHAT DO WRITE. HE IS JUST DOWN RIGHT STUPID!! HE IS JUST SO STUPID. HE IS VERY STUPID... HE JUST IS STUPID... TO KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT!!!!!
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