...the day after the election.
Such as:
This actually was a somewhat less racially polarized election, at least if you examine the voting patterns in Philadelphia's most segregated neighborhoods, as the Daily News' Dave Davies did:
In the 1968 presidential election, the 66th ward in far Northeast Philadelphia voted for third-party candidate George Wallace, the former segregationist governor of Alabama.
But in yesterday's mayoral election, one in four Democrats in the predominantly white 66th cast a ballot for a black candidate, mostly for winner Michael Nutter.
And, Tom Knox's operation was actually robbed TWICE on election day! That was discovered by the Daily News' Dan Gross:
Just hours after two armed men held up a Tom Knox campaign office in the Northeast, making off with $350, a Knox satellite office in Germantown was burglarized.
Thieves made off with around $7,000 from a Knox outpost at 5800 Germantown Ave., sources say. Knox press secretary Susan Madrak yesterday confirmed the burglary, but could not specify the amount that went missing.
Other things we learned today:
Street won't try to run for a Congressional seat held by Chaka Fattah or Bob Brady. And he's supporting Nutter, though he hasn't forgotten about that ad that knocked his administration.
And Lisa Nutter (as we did know) is a cool lady.
Finally, check out the excellent slide show of lunch at the Famous that photographer Alejandro Alvarez of the Daily News has posted. Not to mention -- our own DAN POHLIG has posted his shots, too.
Comments (27)
All of those old racists are either dead or moved to the suburbs where racism is alive and well.
Posted by Fante | May 17, 2007 9:31 AM
Hmmm. Racism is dead in Philly?
Some 70% of the folks in white wards vote for a white mayoral candidate and some 70% of the folks in black wards vote for a black mayoral candidate.
And I would certainly think that in many of the Council races (2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th) there was even less crossover voting.
Have things improved - probably, but let's be realistic about just how much improvement there's been, and how relative it is.
Posted by D.E. II | May 17, 2007 10:20 AM
Well, yes, it is relative. In the suburbs, nearly 100% of white voters vote for white candidates for local office. But yet, racism is never discussed in the 'burbs even though suburbanites "vote with their feet" to leave American cities for whiter pastures.
Posted by Fante | May 17, 2007 10:34 AM
No doubt, Fante. Whites leaving the City or not moving into the City due to racial issues is a factor in why we are where we are; but, I'm not exactly sure why you're belaboring that point.
Posted by D.E. II | May 17, 2007 10:48 AM
"Some 70% of the folks in white wards vote for a white mayoral candidate and some 70% of the folks in black wards vote for a black mayoral candidate."
While this is true, it should be added that folks in those black wards have voted for white candidates by large percentages while it is fair to say that most folks in those white wards have never voted for a black candidate.
Posted by Forrest Yerkes | May 17, 2007 10:54 AM
I'm belaboring the point because this is a city that elects black people and white people to top positions.
Because Nutter received broad support from a cross-section of city residents.
Meanwhile, our white suburban counterparts live among whites and elect only whites. But somehow race is never discussed during elections in suburbia. So like you said, it's relative.
the map is interesting, but it doesn't show alliances that were already set up among candidates.
So I don't understand why you are belaboring the point of race in the city where a candidate received broad support, including the support of the current mayor and the other candidates.
Posted by Fante | May 17, 2007 10:57 AM
Belaboring the point? I'm just pointing out the the lack of race-based voting in this election may be overstated.
And I think that the existance racism is relevant to understanding the history of our City, and as a result, the future of it as well.
Why are suburban elections in some way relevant to the election we just had in Philly?
Posted by D.E. II | May 17, 2007 11:23 AM
Am I the only white suburbanite tired of the generalizations about the voting opinions of other suburbanites? People move to the 'burbs for many different reasons beyond wanting to "live among whites" - job opportunities, housing, family obligations, etc.
I myself grew up in the 'burbs, was educated in the city (Temple, '00 - and no, I wasn't a commuter), and moved back to suburbia for a job opportunity (sorry, it didn't make sense for a poor college grad to pay the wage tax while hiking out to southern Montco for my entry level job). I'm working in Center City now, but it still doesn't make sense for me to move back to the city since my wife works in Delco.
Despite living in the 'burbs, I was still very interested in what happened in this election, and I'm sure many others in suburbia were as well. And like many other posters, I too was excited to see a Nutter victory. He was clearly the best man for the job. And you know what? I'm sure plenty of other white suburban residents feel the same way, because what's good for Philadelphia is what's good for the surrounding suburban counties.
I'm sure there are those living in the 'burbs that have the racist attitudes you're pointing out - still, please don't use the attitudes of a few to paint a picture of the 'burbs as a whole.
Posted by White Suburbanites for Nutter | May 17, 2007 11:25 AM
D.E., you said it was relative. I wonder how Philadelphia's figures compare to how suburbanites vote in their elections?
I wonder how they compare with the rest of the electorate in the U.S.?
I bet Philadelphia's figures come out on top. Yet, you are still belaboring the point that not every white person voted for a black person and not every black person voted for a white person.
And I lived in the Philly suburbs for 15 years and I can tell endless stories with graphic language (that I'm not afraid to use) to detail exactly how the vast majority of suburbanites feel toward Philly and its racial makeup.
Or, hell, all I have to point to WHYY's election coverage and the esteemed editor of the Inquirer's editorial page, Chris Satullo, who told an outright lie to stop Elmer Smith from talking. I'm not going to repeat it because the lie doesn't deserve repeating. This is the top opinion person in the region making defamatory remarks about what he claims city residents say to suburbanites.
Also, look at the panel chosen for election coverage? Two suburbanites being interviewed by someone from the suburbs and Elmer Smith. Suburbanites own the two major dailies. Suburbanites own at least one of the weekly newspapers. The vast majority of reporters who work at the two dailies live in the suburbs. The vast majority of broadcast reporters live in the suburbs.
And all of those early morning talk shows that discuss city issues have panels that overwhelmingly represent suburban interests.
In fact, my biggest beef with the media in this town is that, with few exceptions, they do not present a realistic picture of the city. And that's because they don’t the city.
I did not follow who was running elections this year, but during the last mayoral election, Street and Katz campaigns were run by suburbanites (including the current owner of PNI). And they were both embarrassingly horrible campaigns.
And what was one of the major stories in this year's election? Milton Street. Something that, I swear, no one in the city was talking about, except for the media and suburbanites. And it was talked about in mocking tones, another dumb, crazy n-story in the city.
Frankly, I'm sick of it. And any suburbanite from Chris Satullo to "White Suburbanites for Nutter" who cry like little bitches about any negativity toward their fluorescent-white communities can kiss my ass. This city takes endless crap from the media and other suburbanites who do nothing but mock it.
If the residents in this city is truly ready for change, it has to stop accepting the demeaning way it is portrayed on a daily basis from people who don't have a clue.
Posted by Fante | May 17, 2007 12:27 PM
Fante:
And just where do you think a large portion of those white suburnanites that you like to deride were born and raised??
You're rhetoric is starting to sound idiotic and as a white suburbanite who was born and raised in Philly and whose parents and grandparents were born and raised in Philly, I can tell you that the reasons for the ridicule are a lot broader than you would suggest. Try reading up on your Philly history. Just a quick overview of the last 50 years will tell you a lot.
Do the media play a part? Absolutely. But this city's government has done more to damage Philly's reputation and make people leave than any newspaper could possibly achieve.
And no, I won't kiss your ass.
Posted by shopsteward24 | May 17, 2007 12:52 PM
Fante,
I apologize for wasting your time.
Posted by D.E. II | May 17, 2007 12:57 PM
Exactly the type of white suburbanite response I expected. Blame the city.
Actually I know the history of this city and cities in the U.S. damn well, and would be happy to compare my knowledge with yours.
Just where did all of those George Wallace voters end up anyway?
San Francisco or Bucks County?
Posted by Fante | May 17, 2007 1:09 PM
Sheesh. I'm a city resident and I have no idea what Fante is talking about. The suburban demographic is quite diverse these days. You'll find a whole range of opinions and racial attitudes. The us vs. them (city vs. suburb) posture is as much a city thing as it is a suburban thing. Overcoming that attitude will require cooperation and a recognition of common interests by both sides. Nutter may be a good bridge to bring our suburban friends to the table to build partnerships with the city. Having competent leadership, especially one that doesn't use race as a wedge issue, should help.
Posted by JP | May 17, 2007 1:33 PM
Then I'm sure you could give an example of the city bias toward suburbs, JP.
Please enlighten me. Chris Satullo certainly enlightened me, and he did it on regional television.
Places like Upper Darby and Lansdowne are certainly more colorful these days. And once the blacks came the whites left for whiter pastures like West Chester.
Posted by Fante | May 17, 2007 1:41 PM
Fante, what's your point? Take a deep breath and turn that angst into a coherent point. What are you upset about and what is your proposal? Think productively.
Posted by Anonymous | May 17, 2007 1:58 PM
I stated my point. Here it is again with some edits:
If residents in Philadelphia are truly ready for change, they have to stop accepting the demeaning way the city is portrayed on a daily basis by people who don't have a clue.
Posted by Fante | May 17, 2007 2:03 PM
"the demeaning way the city is portrayed..."
Huh? Okay, if we accept your statement as true, how do you want Philadelphians to "stop accepting the demeaning way..." Should we hold a pep rally? Should we demand that the evening news not report daily murders or government corruption? The city is in the midst of a rennaissance (at least Center City is) with many of its new residents coming from the suburbs, so the negative perceptions of the city must not be quite as pervasive as you claim. In fact, a lot of suburban people I know would love to move to the city, but they don't because of the expense, tax burden, lack of jobs and poor educational system. If it weren't for those issues, I think you'd see a lot more people make the choice to live here. Again, I don't know what you want people to do.
Posted by Anonymous | May 17, 2007 3:13 PM
They need to stop being so negative, for starters...
Posted by Anonymous | May 17, 2007 3:19 PM
Yes, would it really hurt to be positively outspoken about where you live?
Would it really hurt to challenge people who speaks out negatively about where you live?
People who say they would like to live here but, but, but, but, there will always be a but for them and that's fine.
Car insurance is often cited as a reason for not moving into Philly. I've paid more for a health club membership then I do for car insurance. And I only drive about 20 miles per week.
It costs far more to own a car in the suburbs because you need a car to do just about everything.
Another thing, while many of us are happy that Nutter will be the next mayor, he isn't superman.
He's going to do things that are going make us unhappy. He's going form alliances at times with people we would rather not see him deal with. And there are times that he's going to fail.
If you are truly ready for change in this city you will publicly support this mayor when you think he's right or when you think he's wrong.
If you are truly ready for change in this city then you will publicly support this mayor when the media attacks him.
Posted by Fante | May 18, 2007 8:26 AM
Car insurance? Umm, I don't think that's very high on the list of barriers to people moving to Philly. People in Center City are generally enthusiastic about Philly and think it's a great place to live. Heck, I live here even though my job is in the suburbs and I have to pay substantially more in taxes. People in poorer neighborhoods probably would like to move to the suburbs, for obvious reasons. Who can blame them for that? Again, I don't know what you're really arguing about. Philly is a great place with great big problems. Electing a mayor like Nutter is a significant step in the right direction, in my opinion. There are always going to be naysayers. If that's all you choose to hear, then you're missing out.
Posted by JP | May 18, 2007 9:49 AM
"There are always going to be naysayers. If that's all you choose to hear, then you're missing out."
I hear what the region's "movers and shakers" who live in the suburbs say about the city, which is reinforced by other suburbanites. (Like you I used to commute to the suburbs for work from the city), and the suburban-run media. If you think it doesn't have an effect on the city's image and self-image you're living in a dream.
Again, I can tell an endless amount of stories. Like my co-workers telling a visitor from England not to go into the city because he'll get killed. This was during the Rendell and Timmony years when crime was relatively low.
And there are people who will always make excuses for not doing what they know is the right thing to do. They would rather live within their prejudices.
I used car insurance as an example because it's one of the more ridiculous excuses that excuse givers give.
But again, I really don't understand what's so terrible about speaking positively about where you live.
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