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Cleveland Not A Good Trading Match For Sixers

An NBA source confirmed a report in the Akron Beacon Journal that the Sixers and Cleveland have had talks involving Andre Miller. At this point, the talks don't appear to be serious.
The source insisted that despite the talks, there is nothing there with Cleveland.
The article in Sunday’s paper said that Ed Stefanski has hinted he is willing to trade Miller, perhaps packaged with another player for expiring contracts and draft picks.
Even though Cleveland went to the Eastern Conference finals last year, the Sixers have more to realistically offer the Cavs than the other way around. Unless Cleveland suddenly felt like peddling LeBron James.
From this perspective Cleveland just isn’t a good fit.
One trade that would work cap-wise is Miller and Reggie Evans (who has four years counting this year and about $19 million left on his contract) for Drew Gooden, Cedric Simmons and Ira Newble.
The way Miller is playing right now, that isn’t enough.
Gooden is earning $6.4 million and is signed through next season. Newble ($3.4 million) has an expiring contract and Simmons, who is earning $1.6 million this year, is signed through next season.
Miller is making $9.36 million this season and will earn $9.9 million next year.
True confession – earlier this year, this reporter advocated trading Miller to Miami for the expiring contract of Jason Williams and a future pick.
That would have been a knee-jerk reaction to Miller’s slow start and it’s a good thing the Sixers didn’t hire yours truly as a consultant.
Right now Miller is playing at a high level, maybe just below the elite point guards in the league.
His points and assists continue to go up and his turnovers are down.
It’s easy to say that if Miller leaves that Lou Williams will step in. Williams has played well, but he really has done an exceptional job the times he has been paired together with Miller.
Stefanski said it on the radio and confirmed to me last week that the Sixers will be about $6 million under the cap after the season if no moves are made.
There is a lot that can happen between now and the end of the season, and there’s no doubt that Stefanski will likely pull the trigger on at least one trade.
Still, the free agent market isn’t all that it is cracked up to be. We keep getting e-mails about Elton Brand, who can opt out and become a free agent after this season. Yet, Brand would be opting out of a $16 million contract and that doesn't seem likely. And the Sixers and just about any other team wouldn't have the money to sign him.
Plus, he is still rehabbing from a ruptured Achilles tendon.
The name that will likely be bandied about most in Miller trade rumors with the Cavs is Gooden.
Here’s hoping that doesn’t happen. Gooden is only 26 and Cleveland is his third team. He puts up decent numbers and the Sixers are looking for a scoring 4-man, but he doesn’t appear to be that lunch-pail type worker the Sixers and anybody needs at that position.
There are others who are Gooden backers, so the debate should be interesting.
Anyway, there will be plenty of stories coming from other cities saying that the Sixers are talking to various teams. That's because Stefanski is looking at all options. Nobody is untouchable and if one had to bet, there is probably a good chance Miller could go by the trading deadline.
The way he’s playing, if Miller stays, it certainly wouldn’t be the worst thing. The Sixers should demand equal value for somebody who is certainly one of the top 10 point guards in the NBA.

Comments (17)

Bob:

Good point, Marc. I don't think the Sixers should trade Miller for anything but a draft pick or cap room, or possibly a young player. The Sixers need at least 2 years. Miller is a must-have now player for a playoff team who should be willing to part with expiring contract and/or pick.

datruth4life:

"Stefanski said it on the radio and confirmed to me last week that the Sixers will be about $6 million under the cap after the season if no moves are made."

Everything I have seen or read has the 76ers having $12M to $14M in cap room. Does Stefanski's calculations include cap holds for their restricted free agents, Iggy and Lou Will?

If the team truly only has $6M in cap room with no deals, then all of this talk about the team having much cap room this summer to make deals is a bunch of bunk.

Marc, a story begs to written by you on the team's salary cap situation this summer since there are so many numbers being thrown out and many of us don't understand how cap holds for restricted free agents fit into this. It would be great to get the numbers from Stern's office rather than what everyone else is saying.

If this team will only have $6M in cap room this summer instead of what everyone is anticipating, then it's going to be a bad team for many years to come.

Let's hope Miller's improved play will up the ante. Regardless, you are still talking about a player who will be 32 years old in March, has no shooting range outside of 16 feet and has lost a step on the defensive end. Let's move him while the moving is good.

Roman:

If Miller goes, do the Sixers replace him with another point guard or hand the reigns over to Lou? I love Lou's game and his almost limitless potential, but can this guy be an effective NBA point guard and set up his teammates the way that Miller does? With Thad Young and Iggy (hopefully) emerging as dynamic NBA scorers, Sixers might need a more traditional style point guard to dish the ball, then a combo like Lou. Guess time will tell.

Craig:

I believe the number includes new contracts for Iguodala and Williams.

Here's to hoping we don't trade with Cleveland. Other that LeBron, they have nothing we would want. Gooden doesn't do it for me.

I know people will be sick of me saying it, but the scoring PF we need is Wilcox. We have a number of pieces to put together to get him.

Marc, I'd be interested to hear what "impression" Stefanski gives you about Wilcox knowing he can't discuss players under contract.

Pat H:

Trading for Gooden. For who for what? Mid- level exemptions, whoopy .. Will it ever stop. Salary cap hell. The league better do something. They never thought that the NBA draft, would not be good enough to even the playing field with draft picks. And the gap is widening. No end in sight. Players could care less, they're making the big bucks. Owners, making money too. Who can do something ? The fans.. The real losers in this salary cap mess..STAY AWAY !

Billy King:

If the Sixers come close to making a trade with an Eastern Conference team,then they'll make just as big a mistake as the "86"draft,

Mehmet İstanbullu:

The biggest mistake is 98 Draft... Not 86 Mr. King...

Zoe:

A report in yesterday's Akron Beacon Journal said the Sixers and Cleveland have discussed a possible deal for Miller. Please leave Miller alone! This would be yet another dumb move by a franchise that is known to make them. We have one of the top point guards in the league what are we doing people! He's only 31 he's in his prime, don't make another stupid mistake. When will we learn? Lets focus on what we do need like an agressive rebounding scoring power forward. Jepers Mr. Wilson!

Dean:

Listen - Andre Miller is playing great, but he's not going to do anything here. The key to this team is trading Miller for J-Williams and a pick (Miami would do the deal in a heartbeat). That way, you free up an add'l $9M on top of the $6M, which allows you to make a LONG-TERM play for Elton Brand. I don't understand why Marc doesn't feel that Brand will walk away from 1 year and $16M for a 5-yr $80M deal with a better franchise like the Sixers. Plus, then you guarantee yourself a better pick next year, which nets you either OJ Mayo (very underrated defensively) or Eric Gordon - both SGs. You go get Kyle Lowry (again, for the record I hate Villanova) from Memphis, who won't have minutes for him with Conley and Stoudamire at the PG position.

This is not that difficult. This proposal keeps you (a) under the cap and (b) makes you a potential threat in the East in 2 years max due to the right combination of vets and young legs.

andy:

$6m under the cap? What are you talking about?

> Chris Webber's $17m expires.
> Aaron Mckee's $7m expires.
> Kevin Ollie's $3m expires.

That looks like at least 27 million of cap space to me??

Shawn:

Lou Williams should play off the ball --- he has the best natural scoring ability on a team that struggles to score. Until the right trade comes around, playing Williams at the 2 with Miller at the 1 will help develop a player who could score 20 pts/game in the near future... with Iguodala, Dalembert, Williams, and Thad Young as a core... let's see how this plays out...good luck Stefanski.

gba:

What is with the fascination with Lowry?. He did not impress me in the game with the Sixers.

Mark:

Miller should only be traded in a package deal if we can get a power forward or a high draft pick. Since teams wanting Miller will be playoff caliber teams, I don't see the draft pick as a possibility. Everyone seems to be in love with expiring conracts and salary cap space. There are no power forwards available in next year's free agent class. Are there any big point guards (6'4" or above)? I could see the Sixers playing Lou Williams at the 2 if we had a 1 that could guard a 2.

Craig:

Dean, you still haven't answered my question. Why would you give Brand $16m after such a terrible injury??? AND he hasn't played yet this year. Probably won't play until at least March. Plus you don't know what you'll get when he does come back. I wouldn't make a move with Miller banking on signing Brand. We don't even know if he wants to come to Philly, IF he, for some silly reason, opts out.

I think Miller has at least three more good years left in him. Bring in a legit scoring PF, right now, to add to Dalembert, AI, and Miller, and you have a really good team in the East for a couple of years. I didn't even mention Lou, Thad, and Hill. I left Smith out because I know he gives you heartburn.

Andy, the Sixers' payroll is at $71m right now (over the cap of $55.6m). Take away your $27m, then add Iguodala's (or whomever's) $10m and you are back to $54m. I'm thinking the cap will be at $60m in 08-09.

Oliver:

Guys, we're not getting Elton Brand. It's not happening. Give it up. He actually likes playing for the Clippers, and they opened up their (notoriously) tight pocketbooks for him once before. Why wouldn't they do it again?

I'd flip Andre Miller for White Chocolate, if we can get Miami's 1st round draft pick. I doubt that's on the table, though. I only get to watch about 15 NBA games on basic cable, so I'm woefully uninformed.

Drew Gooden? I dunno. I kind of like him, he's only 26. Are we going to get a better power forward in the draft or through free agency than D-Good? Probably not. I just made up the nickname "D-Good," by the way.

What we really need are draft picks, draft picks, draft picks. We can fantasize about suddenly fixing this team through free agency, but that's not gonna happen. We've got to rebuild through the draft; yeah, it sucks and its boring and it takes years, but what else are we gonna do?

Oh, and bring back the classic Sixers uniforms. That should be our real mission. At least we can have a sucky team with good uniforms.

Pat H:

Fascination with Lowry? Its about energy, something that is lacking in the NBA. He is tenatious defender, fearless when he drives to the hoop. He has weaknesses, shooting , size , and the regular, lack of experience. His numbers this year,10pts,5reb, assist/turnover is good 2/1. As you can tell he fill up a stat sheet..

massimiliano:

ciao signor narducci, potrebbe riferirmi i movimenti di mercato dei miei amati 76ers in inglese non ci capisco quasi nulla!!!

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Marc Narducci is in his 23rd year as a sports reporter for The Philadelphia Inquirer. The 2007-2008 season will be his first as the 76ers beat writer. For the past two seasons, Marc had been the backup writer for the Eagles. Over the past few years Marc covered the NBA, NHL and Major League baseball as well as writing on sports media. Prior to covering professional sports, Marc was a long-time high school sportswriter for The Inquirer's South Jersey section.


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