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How about a bounce back game, shooting wise, for Lou and Dre?

Maybe one of the Bulls' youngsters will be available this offseason who wouldn't normally be available. Paxson said there will be wholesale changes to the roster. Just something to consider.

Another 4 to think about in the offseason is Udonis Haslem. Miami's roster is in flux. Haslem is a little shorter than what the 6ers need at the 4, since Reggie is only 6'7" or 6'8", and Haslem is only 6'8". But Haslem is a tough defender, fouls hard, would have Sam's back, and can score on the block more than any 4 on the current 6ers roster. And his contract is affordable.

Hey guys, what do you think E.S. has on his summer wish list at the 4 position one through five; Brand, Randolph, Jamison, Turiaf, Haslem. Next!!!

Marc, I!ve got a funny feeling we lose to the Bulls but beat the Spurs. Just a feeling, but a 2-2 week would be fine. Think L.Brown could end up in Chicago next year?

Gonna root for Cleve. against Wash. on T.N.T. tonight, go Cavs!!!

Suede

Zack, Charlie V. Josh Smith...Brand we cant use him. Elton Brand is like buying a chevy Blazer with more than 100,000 miles on it..You know one day soon it will spontaneously combust in your garage. Why buy a used car with a higher interest rate more miles with a limited warranty when you can get a better almost brand new pf with powertrain, less mileage and it still looks good. Getting Brand is like buying from a old lot that is telling you the vehicle has problems from the door..

Zeru, if I can!t get Brand or Randolph I!d trade our #1 plus a fut.#1 and try to get K.Love. If Brand plays the end of this year and looks healthy he makes us a 50 win team next year. He is a top 20 player in the league and a high character guy.Just my opinion.

I disagree with picking up Brand or K Love. Zack Josh and Charlie would be my first choices. Any of those 3 and I feel we have an unlimited ceiling...With Brand I think One 50 season is possible but what year does it come and is winning 50 games really our goal? I'd rather grow into a title than try the larry brown method of getting immediate results. It looks to me that Moe Cheeks and Billy King is showing us we can still win in the present without morgaging our future. Elton Brand is a big risk.

I like the Chevy Trailblazer analogy, but Brand is a higher quality problem car than that. I say he's a Range Rover, at least.

I'm concerned about his health, too. If we get the chance to get him, I'd pay big money to the best doctor in the world and have him examine and probe the guy every day for a week, and do all sorts of tests on him, because if he's good to go, he's as stud as you're gonna get. He's only 28 and managed to avoid one season of NBA wear and tear. You put him with Iggy and the right role players and we're talking parades here.

Those 3 players, Zach, Josh, Charlie V... Best low post guy right now is Zach, Josh has most upside, Charlie V is best inside/outside guy. Heard Josh had character issues, but been behavin' this year, Zach and Mo didn't work out in Portland, Charlie V doesn't rebound as powerfully. Wish you could combine the three to form ZaJoCha Smillanuedolph. I'd go with Josh Smith, because of the old adage that defense wins in the playoffs. The Sixers have shown that they can win without that big low post threat during the regular season, so my concern is the playoffs. Assuming we become one of the East's elite next year, with the playoffs being a given, the two big guys we gotta stop are Garnett and Chris Bosh, and Josh Smith would give us the best shot at that. Then we face someone from the West and their big guy, if Josh Smith can neutralize him then Iggy, Thad and the crew can take care of the other guys.

remember the name......ANTWAN JAMIESON

william - I agree. Antawn could be had for 10 mil-ish. His body's holding up pretty well, I think because he doesn't play an ultra-athletic style of ball which can break a body down - see C-Webb. Plus he's a guy that can get you 10.5 rebounds per and score inside and out. AND he'd be a 3-point threat. AND he's a good dude.

True Story:
Drinking a micro brew in Media recently and guess who walks in?

ZaJoCha Smillanuedolph, that's who. Well done Sixerzguy.

You got me over crackin up Sixerguy

It's a funny thing, chemistry. It's not fantasy sports, it is real life. Adding a solid 4 man does not make them instantly 4 wins or 5 wins better. I would be interested on Andre Miller's take on a player to help us. And I would be very careful on bringing in a new "star" on this team.

We need our young players to continue to get better. We need to give Mo a real extension so that the players know he will be in for the long haul. And maybe Sammy's right, how about a full time tutor for our big players. I am very excited about Thad Young, Lou Williams, Jason Smith.

I also cannot wait to see them torch AI next week.

It's a funny thing, chemistry. It's not fantasy sports, it is real life. Adding a solid 4 man does not make them instantly 4 wins or 5 wins better. I would be interested on Andre Miller's take on a player to help us. And I would be very careful on bringing in a new "star" on this team.

We need our young players to continue to get better. We need to give Mo a real extension so that the players know he will be in for the long haul. And maybe Sammy's right, how about a full time tutor for our big players. I am very excited about Thad Young, Lou Williams, Jason Smith.

I also cannot wait to see them torch AI next week.

Sixerguy

Based on that assessment and the hell raiser fast break we would obviously have...I think i'm ready to join the Josh Smith Bandwagon full time. With Smith in the lineup you'd be hard pressed to score in the half court. That would be crazy. I think Smith makes us instant contenders based on the way we play the game and the way he does. But yeah Sixerguy..go in the lab and make that happen ZACK's post game. CHARLIE's perimeter game. JOSH's freakish athletism and defense. That would be crazy. Let me know when you finish working that lol

Would like our Atlanta bloggers to chime in on J.Smith. Heard it said he is not a good on the man defender and gets his blocks helping from the weak side.If so we don!t need another Sam, we need another Reggie, capable of shutting down a player straight up.Jamison makes 16.5 mill. this year, do you think he signs for less?

Tom, good point, both Dre!s when resigned should be made aware of E.S.!s thoughts on the matter but the decision is all his.That combo forward sounds like a russian mail order bride.

Didn't realize Jamison was making that much. OK so 10 mil in cap space may not get it done. Sign and trade?
OR......
There's a young dude out there, kinda under the radar right now, slowest guy in the league, pretty sure he's the worst man-to-man defender in the league, low shooting percentage, little or no athletic ability, under performed his first year, worst facial hair in league history... any guesses? Think Bobby Clark with high tops. That's right Adam Morrison. Yes I said Adam Morrison.

By the way guys, Brand and Jamison, if they opt out don!t cost you players, just money. Smith will cost you Sam or A.Miller.

Adam is a 3 but dispite being a type 2 diabetic and a revolving door on defense I wouldnt mind him as a spot up shooter to replace Kyle even tho Kyle is better than him

I felt a damn that was a dumb @$$ trade Kyle Korver rant coming but i'm going to chill.

Suede

Maybe since atlanta ownership is in disarray...like Memphis gave up Pau Gasol...We could get Josh Smith wholesale for some animal crackers 10 million dollar exception and utah's 1st rounder

Zeru, my feeling is we have J.Smith here already in Thad. If we want an athletic, jumpshooting 4 that never posts up, actually Thad can post up, then play Thad at the 4 and move Iggy to the 3 and bring in a 2. But E.S. said in his interveiw that Thad will be the 3 and Iggy the 2 next year so I!m assuming he wants a low post 4 to go along with them.

Jamison has no post game...not that i'm aware of...A baby hook he flashes occasional but it almost looks like a sidearmed bernie kozar jumper. I still want Smith first...I'd settle for Zach...and last i'd take Charlies scoring punch...Now that I think about it..Why in the hell did the Bucks draft YI when they had Charlie. Another great draft for the bucks

Why do we want Charlie when we have Jason.See above.Same type of game.

Another guy that may opt out is Marion. Well goota hit the sack. goodnight Zeru.

Suede

I definately understand the logic...Just not sure how important a TRUE postman is to the inner workings of our team. We are built to run and just like you said man Thad could probably hold us down in the post. We need more than anything someone who will counter our lack of physicality in our front court and Josh is pretty stable..I really like Zach because he isnt a tweener at all and is more talented and skilled than most classic above average PF's. But its sooooooo hard to ignore a guy who could put up a quadtriple double on you with points rebounds blocks steals and even assist in no specific order. Its an intriqing situation if both are available

Goodnight man..Yeah thats true about Jason and Charlie. If jason can start rebounding and put the ball on the floor like that added with his knack for the spectacular block your shot out of nowhere..We can stay pat and keep our money

i know they dont grow on trees or pop up in spring time lawns like dandilions but the sixers really can use a dominant 4. who are two better options other than brand or villenueva? a young 4 like love isnt going to help get them to the upper echelon next season. the 6ers can keep their entire roster intact, sign brand, and be as deep as any team in the east at any position. with this years playoff experience as a bonus they can a force in the 2008 2009 season. so to accomplish that, i say a 20 shot powerfoward who plays defense, rebounds, is unselfish, and is a veteran is the way to go.

Guys, Brand and Marion have to opt out of their deals before they are free agents. Brand would be leaving $16.4M on the table and Marion would have to say goodbye to $17M.

Josh Smith is a restricted free agent, which means the Hawks can match anything he signs for. The 76ers will have $10M in cap room ($12M if the cap goes up by $2M for next year as it has in previous years). That would mean the most the 76ers could offer Josh Smith is $12M.
I think Atlanta would match a 5-year, $60M deal for Smith.

Antwan Jamison is in the last year of a $16.4M contract and will be an unrestricted free agent. He will be 32 years old in June. Living in the Washington, D.C. area, I've had the opportunity to watch Jamison during his career as a Wizard. He is a 20 and 10 guy every night who can post up and stretch the defense. He's not a good one on one defender, but he's a legit all-star.

Charlie V. will make 3.4M next year and will be a restricted free agent the following year at $4.6M. Charlie V. is 23 years old and will be 24 in August. He was coming off the bench until Yi Jianlian got hurt. He's been starting since and has been putting up big numbers every since. He singlehandedly has kept Milwaukee in most games since Yi went down. However, he will be avaialable this summer because Bogut and Yi are looked at as the future of the Bucks at the 4 and 5 positions.

Charlie V. is an outside/inside threat that could be the young scoring and rebounding PF that this team wants. His biggest weakness is his defense and he sometimes plays like he's going through the motions. However, when he is dialed in, he could easily go for 30 and 15 on any given night. He's also never played with a strong defensive team that could help cover for some of his on the ball weakness.

Zach Randolph has 3 more years on his contract beginning next year at $14.6M, $16M, and $17.3M. He's probably the best low post option out of all of those who are available. He's also the most problematic (has butted heads with Cheeks before) and comes with a heavy price tag. His offensive and rebounding skills would be a good fit for this team.

Ronny Turiaf is a restricted free agent and turned 25 in January. He is a PF/C who is a great on ball defender and low post defender. He can also post and is developing a reliable elbow jumper out to 16 to 18 feet. He's not the 20 and 10 PF that they are looking for, but he is a great teammate, would add size and toughness and would give this team 12 points, 8 rebs and 2 blocks a game. He'd also pair nicely with Dalembert since he could guard the power players (Dwight Howard, Eddy Curry, Amare) that normally overpower Dalembert.

Okay, with all of that being said, I would favor these 2 moves:

A) Trading this year's no. 1 pick (and a player if need be, Willie Green?) to the Bucks for Charlie V. and then:

B) Signing Ronny Turiaf (I'm thinking 5 years at $6M per year) in free agency. Both are young enough to grow with our young core but both are experienced and talented enough to have an impact right now.

Besides adding these two, the team would still have about $4M to sign a shooter or shooters. It would have Andre Miller's expiring $10M contract at next year's trade deadline as an asset and 2 no. 1 picks in the 2009 draft.

Your thoughts?

Zeru,

I have a Blazer with 95k miles on it.

uh-oh.

How about Craig Smith? Think we can pry him away from Minnesota? He's my favorite young PF option. Brand is too risky and Jamison's doesn't match what ES wants enough to sign either of them. Other than that, there are two Sonics who would be great to have.

What do you think about Walter Herrman? Judging by the playing time he got in Detroit they won't resign him this summer. Guy is a great physical specimin and a solid shooter. Remember what he did for Charlotte the second half of last year? Guy has lots of potential and could be an amazing bargain bin pickup for some firepower and a back up 2/3.

regarding Josh Smith, he's an amazing talent, but he can't even win games for his own team. And for all the money he's going to be getting, he'll probably never be a first option on a team unless he pulls a Shawn Marion.

Give that money to someone who actually has a presence on the floor.

Datrulife, Turiaf is a good fit but would rather let Jason grow into the role than Charlie. If this team is going to have a defensive mindsetthan not sure Villanueva is a good fit.If we add 2 players, Diop and Tutiaf would work with Jason getting his minutes at the 4. Like Hermann a lot, a 6!9" athleticversion of Korver. Not a bad addition for the right price.[4 mill.?]

Yo, sixers win against Pistons was awesome and we do need to build on that tonight with no let down against the bulls. Concerning free agents and next year, I can't stand Zach Randolph, this guy is selfish and lazy. Portland got rid of him and they turned their season around this year, remember, Portland had the exact same team last year and were the worst squad in NBA. Also any player the Knicks like, don't touch him. Josh Smith would be a great fit here, the guy is atheletic, long and quick with awesome hands and perimiter D, but he still does not give us a true scorer on the block, J. Smith also tends to disapear for long stretches. I know that nobody mentioned him, but what is the deal with Shawn Marion? I guess Marion is getting older, but the guy would be a perfect fit on this roster. I think the Heat are gonna try to rebuild and unless they resigned him during the trade I think he gives the sixers everything they need. Marion is a premeire defender and with him, Thad, Sammy, Dre, and Miller in the game, that is one hell of a defensiive team. Marion can also stretch defenses cause he can shoot far better then any of the other players mentioned (even if it is ugly as hell) and the guy would love to be a number one scoring option. Marion can also keep with our uptempo style of play as the guy can run his ass off, (ask Steve Nash if he misses him) As for Brand, Zach and Vilanuava, they all slow this team down considerably.

Can we please stop talking about the 83 team!!!! Other teams won the championship for the sixers! jsut because smo cheeks is the head coach of this team...PLEASE STOP WRITING ABOUT IT -- they have been doing ceremonies honoring that team for 3 years in a row! STOP STOP STOP

I don't know any players over there, but don't discount the Euro League, or South America, as the source for our PF.

DaTruth,

That was a fantastic analysis, IMHO. And I agree with it... I'd never pay $17 mil for Randolph, Brand, Jamison, or Marion. Heck, we're only now getting out from under a huge, horrible contract (awful Chris Webber). And, honestly, I think $12 mil is the least someone will offer Josh Smith.

I like Villanueva. I think the argument that Jason Smith has the potential, within the next year or two, to rise to Villanueva's talent level is quite problematic. Jason has his moments, no doubt, and has already demonstrated that his b-ball IQ is fairly high. Villanueva, on the other hand, is already head and shoulders above Jason and it's not a stretch to think he'll get even better on an up-and-coming team like the Sixers. Add Turiaf and a decent outside shooter to the mix and you've really got something.

Again, great plan, DT.

and, yeah... I'm guessing our PF/C rotation would include Sammy, Villanueva, Turiaf, and Reggie Evans. Jason would probably get traded since we really wouldn't need him.

Besides Charlie V's defense, which I can see would be attempted to be made up for by the other 3 forwards in Datruth's plan, That sounds like an awful lot of mixing and matching. In other words, perhaps too much to play with for Mo. I have no problem in theory with that style, but I am on record as being suspect of Mo's in game rotations and management, and if he is our coach perhaps that is a bit much to chew on for him?

DaTruth, that does kind of answer my question from yesterday. You're making pretty good sense, man.

Morty, I dont know anyone over there either, but we all do know Ed likes internationals. I was thinking more along the lines of a shooter based on the WIP interview, but he doesn't strike me as the type of guy who sets his options in stone, so you may be on it also.

Zeru, its funny you decided to call me out. A your posts last and yesterday echo a lot of what i've been saying over the last few weeks, At least as far as the players on this team now and what they could become...especially about Thaddeus. Would also be ok with trying him one more year at the 4 to see if he'll put on a few more Lbs., he's only 19, after all.

Its nice to have options, huh?

Morty, also a valid point. I think Mo has been growing, though. Maybe playoff experience will help him, too?

Datruth4life, good post! Nice breakdown of those players.

I would hate to have ZBo here. For people who are bringing it up, we would have to give up 15 million worth of players to get him... That means Dalembart or Miller and another player or 2. It would be a horrible move to do s/t like that and its not happening.

Here's what I am hoping for this offseason:

Option 1) offer a ton of money to either Smith or Okafor, if there teams match, move to option 2

Option 2) go after Brand (shouldn't opt anyway..) or more likely Jamison for a 3-4 year contract; Jamison's style of play and character are a perfect fit for our team and he would only need to play 30 minutes a night (with Reggie, Josh, Sammy and a 1st Round Pick sharing time) which would allow him to be very effective for 3-4 years (which is about the same length of time Miller will still be very effective -- and yes we should try to extend him)... It will be fine for us to have these 2 vets and 8 other young players...

Option 3) follow the truth4life's plan by trading for Vill and signing Turiaf or maybe Craig Smith... I would also look into Mickeal Pietrus who got garbage offers last year and may be cheap for us.

With a good off-season pickup and a first round draft pick that can contribute, we should be the #3 team in the East next year as we would be much deeper then Orlando and Cleveland... Also, Boston and Detriot will most likely be on a steady decline over the next 2-3 years as their players age...

Opinions?

KM:

Maybe. Or, if ES truly thought that was the best group of players, and Mo can't manage them, then Mo goes. We all know he is on a short leash next season. I said it at the time of his extension that he likely has the first half of next year to show his stuff, because there is no financial incentive to keep him. So Mo will either get a 2-3 year extension or be fired sometime between the 1/3 and 3/4 mark of next season.

So, disregard my previous point about Mo influencing ES. ES will get the best players, and give Mo a shot at coaching them. If he can't, Mo will be gone which costs us a year of development, but hey.

Changing gears, if there is a Euro FA ES likes, that player would likely fit well within our 10 mil cap space.

I mean Jason, not Josh...

Any Sixer's fan who knows what is happening has to be giddy at the thought of what this team could be. We have so many questions with what some of our players will become in the next year or two that I think taking on a large contract this summer would be stupid.

Will Iggy's shot develop? Will Thad put on the pounds (he's still a teenager) and continue to improve his post game? Will Jason Smith become Charlie V? Will Carney's talent ever consistently shine through like against Detroit?? Any of these things can happen and we don't want JSmith or Thad thinking they can relax now because Brand or Jamison or Randolph are around.

As for JSmoove, he would be a fantastic fit on this team but I don't think he can be had for $12 mil a year. And I'm not even sure if I would pay that much for him at this point.

"Also, Boston and Detriot will most likely be on a steady decline over the next 2-3 years as their players age..."

Not so sure about Detroit. They have a young backcourt tandem ready to take over in Stuckey and Afflalo. Tayshaun will be good for a long time to come and has an excellent backup in Jarvis Hayes (if they keep him). Jason Maxiell and Amir Johnson are both tough competitors. In two years McDyess, Wallace, and Hamilton's contracts expire leaving plenty of capspace, if they even need it.

If there is anytime the Sixers should model themselves after, it should be Detroit. They only take sensible contracts, have a strong defensive reputation, play team ball, and are both patient and talented enough to let their young players develop.

Opinions - Zack Randolph could be ok, but I would rate the move as a "disaster waiting to happen". I can't see Brand walking away from a contract that size unless he comes back and blows people away at the end fo this season. Jamison is too old for this group. Villanueva could be ok, probably the most attractive of the group. I personally don't think Josh Smith will be available, but he'd be my second choice of the current players mentioned.

I think the draft is the way to go for a PF. ES should use some cap space for a young PG to take over in February when/if they trade Miller. I can't see why you wouldn't trade him then unless they consider themselves a real contender for a title by the deadline.

All of the core guys right now are young enough to wait for someone to develop, and if you've got cap space to sign the right veterans for your bench, you could use our picks and some of the "parts" that have potential but not a real solid place in the future, like Carney/Smith/Green to move up and get the pick you need, (Love is my choice also).

Now we just have to convince someone to trade out of a great draft position. Not sure who would be willing to do so, or how high Love will go anyway. Anyone have any idea where he's being rated?

Bob:

I think most of the smarter commenter's here agree that, given the players we have on hand, Detroit is the best model for us to follow. Great point that they have managed the cap about as well as any one in the league.

So that said, the question is: how do we add our Rasheed? Who is our Rasheed? I don't mind a big contract for that player.

I'm enjoying the talk about moves to continue the Sixers improvement. In my opinion the best option available at power forward is Emeka Okafor who has a nice combination of power and athleticism. He was the #2 pick behind Dwight Howard in 2004 and there was some debate on which player should be #1 because Okafor led UConn's National Title Run. The concern is whether Charlotte would let him go and if they do can the Sixers sign both Okafor and Iguodala. If this scenerio played out the Sixers would be a complete team. I don't consider Okafor a low post threat, but the Sixers would have a formidable front court that consistently rebounds offensively and defensively and blocks shots, starting the transition game. We should get Shav, Amundson, Booth, and Ollie off the roster for productive young PG and shooter, one of which we could get from this year's 1st round pick and we're good to go.

Very thoughtful comments on todays blog. Seems like most are on the same page.

I'm not sure about Okafor. He doesn't provide enough offense at the 4 position but I'm not sure why. He just doesn't put up offensive numbers. Maybe,someone has seen more of him and can comment. He's also had back issues.

BX - I've actually seen a draft board that had us getting Love - suede gave me the link the other day, forget what it was now though... I dont think its a bad choice, but I'm not sure he's my choice. If we draft opt to draft a PF, i like DJ White better. He just strikes me as a bit more balanced, just not quite as flashy - again, sort of the detroit model.

Also, here's a thought. Josh Smith isn't necessarily my first choice, but it we do get him a lot of people seem to agree it would cost us Dalembert. In that case, I'd take a good look at Padgett out of Louisville to replace him - he's puts up efficient scoring(though not super high numbers) in the post and is a very smart passer. Could ignite the break on an outlet, kick out to the shooters we plan to pick up, or post up now and again. Haven't seen much of him, but what i've seen i like - anyone have thoughts on that as a hypothetical?

That's weird - last post should have been signed KM.

No solid opinion about Okafor, but just read that the Bobcats are the most blocked team in the NBA, and that Okafor is the second most blocked player.

About tonight's game -

On blog-a-bull, a Bulls blog, this was published a few days ago: "In the lamest playoff push in history, the Bulls gained ground because the Nets, Sixers, and Hawks all lost." And he got on TrueHoop, too!

That's never good for the opponent when the Sixers are disrespected like that. Looking at the matchups alone, you'd think this would a dangerous game because the Bulls' shooters could be on tonight, but with the ignorant media in Chicago not knowing WHY we leapfrogged their poorly built team into the 7th spot, I think this is gonna be another blowout.

One thing about this game that'll be interesting to watch - the Bulls have started running, like us. They got Noah back there getting rebounds and pushing it ahead, and it's improved them. But again, here's another team that thinks this is last year's Sixers... Chicago, I kind of feel bad about what's gonna happen to you guys tonight.

I luv Louwill but I would def sign/trade him to CHI for Ben Gordon or to move up to draft OJ MAYO. Add Charlie V & Mike Pietrus in the offseason. And we would have significant upgrades in our perimeter off/def and our 4 position. Jason Smith is great for depth but there's nothing in his game to show he will be able to score in this league like Charlie V..

KM

I dont call you out...only if you are being disagreeably obnoxious. Which is the case more 60% of the time. I have found value in most of players on our roster that isnt named Kevin Ollie or Louis Amundson. And that was in the beginning of the season before we found ourselves. So you one of the trying to trade everybody is pretty ironic. But its better when we are in agreement. We are like the Sixers congress and overall picture is looking really good right now. Hopefully we can do really dynamic in the offseason without giving up any of our core and valuable assets. Iggy Sam Miller Lou Carney Smith Thad and perhaps Green. To be honest I knew we had alot of "Natural" talent on our team but it wasnt clear how fast they would put it together. Well we definately have a playoff team and options are beautiful. Wish one of them was Kyle korver but I guess we have to make due without ANY consistent perimeter shooting. So will see what we have. Ed has walked into a sweet situation going into the summer.

Sixerguy

It sure feels good to know what you are isnt it?

76ers need to stay as far away from Z. Randolph as possible. The only Knicks worth even looking at are Crawford (No D, No conscience) and Lee (No shot). I say take Charlie V if he is cheap enough or Turief. Williams in NJ is interesting and might be made available with Krstic back from injury and the addition of S. Swift. The kid is 6'10" 235 with unbelievable hops and plays serious D. I know the O is not there but he is young and would fit right in with Dal, Smith and Evans. I would rather teach a youngster than look for old fragile vets. Let this team grow without looking for the quick fix. Too many bloggers want to have the kids improve just so we can trade them away. Who are we the Clippers?

Some of you have suggested that signing R. Turiaf and trading for Charlie V. would mean that Jason Smith would have no role on this team. That's not what I'm saying.

I would upgrade the talent of this team by making the two moves and then let the players compete for minutes. Nobody would be given anything. If you want the minutes and the starting spot, then go take it. So, let Charlie V., Jason Smith, R. Turiaf and Reggie Evans compete for that starting 4 and who will be a part of the rotation.

Those who don't make it can then be used as bait to get whatever else you need. That is the way the NBA works. Before you can become a good team, you have to have the talent 1-15 on your roster to be competitive, first in practice and then in the games.

Remind me again to take everything the Sixers say with a metric ton of salt. No letdown my f***ing ass, what a pathetic first half showing against the Bulls.

Heh Pessimist, have you recovered yet? Seasons do not end at the all-star break and games don't end at the half.

I can't believe Carney... carrying the team to back to back wins. He should be NBA's player of the week.