Food and Drinq

Keep the faith, Peter, in the face of the food nazis

If I had any desire to go to West Chester on a Friday night I'd be there buying three orders of foie gras. Since I don't, I send you my best wishes and gratitude to CARE for improving your business. Don't cave in to these terrorists.

Why is caring for animals terrorism? I'm guessing Chef tim and Chris supported michael vick in his dog fighting activities - after all, those poor dogs were just animals. Right?

oh please. Vegetarians order foie gras? I think not. Any true vegetarian would find the preparation of foie gras to be utterly unacceptable.

Good luck to Gilmore's.
There are alot of real problems that the people from CARE could focus on.

Ally, you know what happens when you make assumptions...

First, dog-fighting is illegal while foie gras production and consumption is not. Second, geese, ducks, chickens, cows, etc... are LIVESTOCK. We eat them. It's the whole food chain thing. Third, harrassing customers and proprietors to the extent of following them home, videotaping them in their homes, and using threatening language such as "we know where you sleep at night" is terrorism.

And Alana, not all vegetarians are into the lifestyle because of some moral quagmire about their place on the food chain.

We all know the actual agenda of CARE and "Hugs" is to force all the world into being vegetarians. But of course it won't stop there - soon someone will think it cruel to eat a salad, and worry about the cruelty of harvesting beets.

I think it's pretty clear what is blocking people from admitting the cruelty to ducks (and chickens and cows etc...) in industrialized food production if someone can't distinguish between a beet and an animal.

So, Rowan, I guess we should all just grow our own vegetables and raise chickens and cows in our backyards, or the bathrooms of our apartments. How would you propose to feed this enormous population without industrialized food production? Even that chunk of soy sitting in your fridge was produced through industrial means.

And no, I don't consider raising livestock for consumption cruetly. They are after all, livestock. I don't put humans and animals on the same level of rights any more than I put a duck and a beet. When a duck, or a beet can make a coherent argument about why I shouldn't eat them, I'll listen.

I'm sure when you have us all meat-free you'll find something to complain about in the way veggies get to our tables.

Ally, Rowan and Alana - I'm curious about your stance on abortion. The bet going around the office is you're all pro-choice-"keep your hands off my body"-types. If so, how does that mesh with your willingness to control the eating habits of others.

Keep your hands off my stomach.

Chris/Bill (you're clearly the same person) - so the distinguishing factor for you is whether something can make a coherent argument about why you shouldn't eat it? I guess we know YOUR views on abortion... fetuses certainly can't talk, so they must be ripe for your dinner plate as well.

Sounds tasty. Perhaps with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

No, Rowan, Bill and I are not the same person, but we do work in the same office, and follow this blog religiously. We agree that people need to worry about themselves, and not whether livestock should be eaten. You don't want the government telling you whether or not to have an abortion, but you're worried about a duck having a hose stuck down it's throat.

Since you're so concerned about split personalities, whould we call you Ally next time? Or, maybe Ally. And, I can pretend to be Chef Tim too? We can dress up in costumes and put on a show.

Here's an idea - if you are against Foie Gras - don't eat it. Don't force others into anything. This isn't Russia Danny....is this Russia?

Do you pro-cruelty advocates all read from the same script? I can regurgitate your arguments before you make them. The day someone says something new will be the day I hang up my animal rights activism hat.

(1) Caring about humans and caring about animals is not mutually exclusive. Unlike the one-note pro-cruelty advocates, animal rights activists differ in just about every way except for their belief that animals deserve better - some are pro-life, some are pro-choice. Some even have children of their own (!)

(2) No one cares about what you eat. The concern is that animals are suffering. If what you eat is causing animal suffering, than your food choices may be affected. You'll survive.

(3) You have time to follow this blog "religiously" but you're judging others for taking time to speak out on behalf of animals? Sounds like someone needs to look in the mirror....

Much like you are criticizing us for speaking our minds, Rowan? My mirror view is pretty awesome.

I like how you identify yourself as for animal rights and that anyone with a differing viewpoint is pro-cruetly. Its much like pro-lifers identifying pro-choicers as "pro-baby murder." Really on your game. I hope you don't lose your place in the "Busybody's Guide to Cultural Terrorism." Sounds like you're on page 43 now.

And I'll say it again and again and again, so that you won't have to predict my argument. I don't care about the treatment of livestock. They are livestock. They exist to be eaten. As long as it isn't diseased, they can dress a cow in high-heels and a mini-skirt if it makes it taste good.

Chris, in Korea, dogs are livestock. Here they are man's best friend. Sorry, but your argument that certain animals don't deserve consideration because they are classified in a certain way doesn't fly. I'm sorry you are so devoid of compassion.

Tell them to stop harassing local businesses and customers. AR extremists have harassed business owners at their homes and sent veiled threats against their children. These local businesses support their families, the families of their employees and pay taxes to support the local community. Animal rights extremists want ALL animal products banned. Tell them you will decide what you eat and wear and not them.
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Last post, and we are moving on, Rowan - because you bore us. We had tried to send a similar post before, but it wasn't posted.

In many cultures, people use all kinds of animals (and insects for that matter) as livestock that we don't consider as such. If I liked to, or needed to eat dog, I would. Call it cultural relativisim is you must. In this culture, geese and duck are livestock and thus I will eat them and any part of them in any way I see fit.

Thanks for the contacts Joe. Maybe we should let them win. Then we could make a mint in the black market foie gras trade.