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Here's exquisite J-Roll modeling the new retro cream-colored Phils uniforms unveiled today for next season. Modeled on the team's 1940s uniforms, they'll be worn at 2008 home day games. It's worth remembering that the team was a disaster for most of that decade. According to the Phillies website, "by 1942, the club had lost more than 100 games for the fifth straight season, including a club-record 111 in 1941." In 1948, the club signed Richie Ashburn and Robin Roberts, the latter was back to model the uniforms with Rollins and Cole Hamels.
Despite the bad history, we like the uniforms and think it was time the pinstripes were banished. What do you think?
It will come as no surprise that, with less than a month to go before Christmas, the jerseys went on sale immediately for a mere $189.99 at the Phils website, almost Prada prices. Smart thinking now that Eagles attire sales have slowed. What we really want, though, is the "Dreamseats Philadelphia Phillies Recliner," yours for only $999.99.

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Ben Caplan:

I like the uniforms but you are crazy to say that the phillies need to do away with the pnstripes. These new uni's are good alternates, kind of like greg dobbs and chris coste you like them but you don't want to see them in the lineup everyday.

Liberace:

Even I think they're ghastly. Also - the last time the Phillies wore blue hats after a championship season it took 13 seasons to get back to the playoffs. Brilliant thinking as usual from the Phillies.

gareth duffield:

superstitious, aren't we?
ha - the uni's look fine. relax.

CJ:

Next, I hope they'll consider some new away uniforms. the gray, boring look is WAY past due for an update.

TPW:

Ugly...plain and simply, unimaginatively ugly. How can Phillies' management consistently get it wrong? The Fightins' pin stripes added a "touch of class" to a special season.

This new look is the "let's see how 'blah' we can make the uniforms" uniform.

C'mon, Reuben...get something right for change.

The new uniform (which we will seemingly have to endure for next season) is dreadfully dull. C'mon Fightins...the new uniform is dull, dull, and really dull. Cream went out with the '70s.

Whose idea it was to go with "cream" and no stripes should be posted to Batavia for a few seasons to enjoy the weather and the night life (and the ballclub).

Just when we were maybe starting to get somewhere....a new uniform.

Awful!

George:

Would you care to explain why you don't like pinstripes? I know Yankee black probably always will be the foremost pinstripe in the mind of the public, but Phillies red always struck me as sufficiently unique. It has been part of every Phillie home uniform in my lifetime.

Actually, I find this milk-the-public-by-marketing-alternate-uniforms
thing to be annoying. It was fun for a while when Mitchell & Ness started selling retro caps and jerseys, but it's a distraction to watch today's players in yesterday's uniforms. I think people buy retro items because they admire past Phillies like Jim Bunning or Richie Ashburn, not because Jimmie Rollins wears these things on Sundays.

steve:

If Chris Coste is on the opening day 25 man roster I will buy one with a No. 27. But I said the same thing last year with the pinstrips and was saved by the GM!

I got a 40's era hat from Cooperstown ball caps a while ago. I have since lost it, but I like the look of the blue Phillies ballcap.

Todd:

These ugly uniforms are based on the 1946-1949 Phillies whose record was 278-338..... more brilliant thinking by the Phillies brass! Why would the Phillies want to "go back" and remind us of their way less than stellar past? Go figure.

Dennis:

Great uniform!
As the article mentioned, these uniforms were worn from 46-49, not in 42. When the Phils unveiled the pinstripes in '50, my father (an A's fan)asked, "Who do they think they are, the Yankees?". Phils fans found out they weren't the Yankees when they lost 4 straight in the World Series.

Brett :

CREAM?? These uniforms would be nice I guess for throw back day but not to wear more then one time. What is wrong with having color?? The Reds, Red Sox, Angels, and Cards all have some form of a "red" alternate jersey to wear for games heck even a shade of blue would have been nice but the Phillies get ancient cream to wear "YUCK"!

John:

The uniforms look like long-underwear without the stripes.

Steve Kusheloff:

The Phillies basic red & white, pin-stripe uniform is a classic, largely based on the style originated in 1950. It was updated several years ago when the Phils got rid of the swirly "P" uniforms of the '70s and '80s. But the new alternate uniform is a great addition, retaining the best of the new (the Phillies script across the front), with touches of old (cream instead of white, red and blue on the arm and neck bands). The Phillies absolutely got it right with this one!

MJ:

Judging by the comments thus far, there are a lot of people missing the mark here.
"Cream went out in the '70s"? The band, maybe. But in the 1970s, no team wore cream at home; in the beginning of the Polyester Uniform Era, teams wore white or a team color (think Pirates in black or gold, Indians in red). The first team to wear cream at home these days were the Giants, and their uniform is one of the 3 or 4 best in baseball. It's no coincidence that the Phillies' "new-old" look is very similar to the Giants' look: 3 stripes at the sleeves, 3 stripes around the neck, but not the piping that goes down the entire front of the jersey (think Braves jerseys), team wordmark across the front. Simple, classic and beautiful.
Besides, some teams do pinstripes right. The Yankees use dark, thick pinstripes that stand out on TV and from the upper deck. The Phillies use thin, red stripes, which look vaguely pink from far away. I don't want my team wearing pink.
Baseball does well to honor its traditions with white at home, gray on the road. Teams wearing red (or blue, or purple, or black...) jerseys and white/gray pants look like softball teams. And it's baseball for God's sake - you shouldn't need a week's worth of outfits to play a game! Pick a home set, a road set - and if you really gotta have one, an alternate jersey for RARE occasions, not every Wednesday and Friday - and play ball!
This looks classy, and like most teams that look good (Braves, Cardinals, Giants, Tigers, Red Sox, Tigers, Yankees), the uniform could work in 2007 as well as 1947. Sorry if classy, understated designs "bore" some of you.
Great work, Phils. Hope this becomes the full-time home uni in a year or two.

John B:

I don't like the idea of the retro uniforms especially when they refer back to a losing past. I was hoping for the cool look of a pullover shirt like the Oakland A's of the 70's.

Nate:

I think they look great! Very classic. Baseball is ALL about tradition, and I think the Phills are on the right track here.

Diane Orleman:

I have Richie Ashburn's baseball card from the first year he was with the Phillies. I have fond memories of my father taking me to Shibe Park to watch him, and other favorites play. These new unies bring back those memories and will probably be appreciated by us "old" fans who were born, raised, and still live in Philly. They may fly in the face of some people's superstitions, but for others they will symbolize a sacred tradition.

Bob:

I love the new (old) jerseys!
Just wish they would have large numbers on the back without the players names on them to make them look like the old classic ones from back in the day.

phillygirl64:

blech...almost as bad as the Eagles anniversary throwbacks...and is a change really necessary?

of course if they win the WS, I won't care what the uniform looks like

Mike K. :

I think the new uniform is just ok. My question is this....What uniform did the team wear during its most successful run in its history? A)The Fat swirly p and the Powder Blue Away Uniforms. These uniforms are getting way too boring.

judas_priest:

A minor point, but Ashburn and Roberts were not signed in 1948 (in the common meaning of the term) but were rookies that year. Ashburn was Rookie of the Year (hitting I believe, .333) and Roberts, called up in the middle of the year, went 7-9. They had been signed several years earlier. (Coincidentally, that was the year I saw my first Phillies game, about a month before my 6th birthday.)

I liked the pinstripes, but don't really care unless the uniforms are assertively uigly.

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