This is the picture that big5fan linked to in his comment, and I had to take it out because URLs in comments do bad things to our servers.
I was pretty sure, though, that JBird was right that the expiration of time is governed by the light on the backboard, not the scoreboard clock.
So in the name of public service, I once again took out my scuba diving gear and plunged into the 181-page monstrosity that is the "NCAA Basketball 2008 Men's and Women's Rules and Interpretations" manual. (the link goes to a .pdf version of it).
Art. 2. Each period shall end when the red light or LED lights has become activated. When the light fails to operate or is not visible, each period shall end with the sounding of the game-clock horn.
Except it seems like that is contradicted by this:
b. In games with a 10th-of-a-second game clock display and where an official courtside monitor is used, the reading of zeros on the game clock is to be used to determine whether a try for goal occurred before or after the expiration of time in any period. When the game clock is not visible, the officials shall verify the original call with the use of the red/LED light(s). When the red/LED light(s) are not visible, the sounding of the game-clock horn shall be utilized. When definitive information is unattainable with the use of the monitor, the original call stands.
I'm going to do some research for clarification and get back to you. Seems like the refs can go either way, though. For what it's worth, the Princeton-Temple game in 2004 had a similar controversy -- actually, looking in the Inquirer archives, it might have been more obvious that time -- and the Owls came out on top.
I do know this. Whether or not the shot would have counted, the block superceded it in the end and St. Joe's won the game. So why are all the Hawks fans going around screaming about how the clock had expired when it didn't matter anyway?
Well, maybe I know the answer to that one...
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Apparently, I heard thru the grapevine that the timer is on the payroll at Penn as well.
They share the same staffs for these sorta things (clock, stats, scorer table)...
food for thought...Its Bilsky's way of trying to continue to screw over Dunphy???
Posted by Phil | January 27, 2008 6:24 PM
Posted on January 27, 2008 18:24
Uh, no, if I may say so.
I know the guy, and he's as standup a guy as there is in the Big 5. There are a few other folks you come across at multiple teams' games, too; it's not just him.
So that wouldn't happen. Sorry.
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January 27, 2008 6:33 PM
Posted on January 27, 2008 18:33
How can someone who sits down for 40 minutes be considered a "stand-up" guy?
Posted by Jeff | January 27, 2008 6:50 PM
Posted on January 27, 2008 18:50
Looked like Tyndale got the shot off in time, only to be goaltended.
That photo that has floating around showing no time on the clock is probably photoshopped.
Posted by Leron | January 27, 2008 7:05 PM
Posted on January 27, 2008 19:05
Nobody was screwed over. I don't care how obvious it is, no ref is going to decide a game on a goaltending call. It was more obvius in the Georgetown game and they didn't call it there either.
Posted by stu | January 27, 2008 7:49 PM
Posted on January 27, 2008 19:49
I liked Jeff's comments about the scorer not being a stand up guy since he is sitting down the whole game.
On the other issue, I think the officials got the call correct.
Valid shot. No goaltend.
Posted by Jeff Fan | January 27, 2008 8:04 PM
Posted on January 27, 2008 20:04
Question:
Is there a Big Five Office? If so, what does the office do? How many people are employed f/t by the league, or mini-league, if you will.
Posted by Noah | January 28, 2008 7:48 AM
Posted on January 28, 2008 07:48