The Zo Zone

"Did Cardinals fans boo Reyes as he returend to the dugout? Nope. They reacted with indifference.

Guess the Kool-Aid is on the house the night's Reyes pitches, huh?"

Or maybe they just don't really give a damn.

Or maybe they're busy sending Reyes death threats like they did to umpire Don Denkinger after they lost the World Series to the Royals.

Honestly, I'm so sick and tired of all this Baseball Heaven crap that people like Sensitive Scott Rolen and his sympathizers in the media keep pushing on us. I remember the days when Busch Stadium attendance was as low as it was in the latter years of the Vet. Give it a rest already.

I noticed the same thing with the St Louis crowd reaction, and it is great to see that. I had to blink my eyes a couple times and wonder if the Phils were in Chicago. A home team fan shouldn't boo their own team, it's demoralizing. St. Louis isn't Philadelphia though, and the Philly fan will never change, he'll boo a guy into oblivian, and then cheer for him if he does something good.

It must be the air in Philadelphia or something.

Thanks for the lecture, Rich. Were you trying to insult ALL of Philadelphia, or just the sports fans?

My comment was linked to the post in this blog about the diffence between fans reaction in St. Louis as compared with Philadelphia.

I was thinking about the very issue as Reyes was pitching, but you know what? He was out there on the mound and was trying. He doesn't get any run support from the Cards when he pitches, and I think he'll get a win sooner or later.

I am a sports fan in Philadelphia, and I really don't go out of my way to boo people on the Phillies even if they have a bad game. There are many of us in the stands, it's only the loud mouths that get heard and get the press. Philly fans are a lot more saavy than their crass reputation, that is for sure John in La!

Uh, Rich, maybe you should re-read your original post. You said "the Philly fan" which, to me, implies all Philly fans. "He'll never change." You didn't make the distinction until just now. See the difference? And do you see that I was actually defending Philly fans? It's interesting how you sort of twisted things at the end, too. The exclamation point was a nice touch. Really drove it home!

John you are intitled to your opinion on my post. That is what make's blogging great. I may have erred in saying 'The Philly Fan' in my post. OK, correction: May it now be said that I meant the 'Vocal Philly Fan' which by the way is not your 'typical' fan at the new Phillies Citizen Bank Ballpark.

I didn't intend on twisting anything in my post, I saw that you were defending Philly fans of course. I don't want to defend rude ignorant fans that boo their own players though. I've sat next to them in Philly for years also. They've booed Schmidt, Rose, Carlton. No, not every fan is Philly fits into this mold.

A few years ago I went out to Wrigley Field in Chicago. After a few innings I felt a tremendous feeling that I've haven't felt before at a ball game. If you haven't been to Chicago to see a game you have to go. The fans there were great, not that Philly fans aren't great mind you, but there was a big difference in the total overall atmosphere. Fans clapping enthusiastically about a player throwing a player out on a groundout, catching a fly ball.. I really felt I was in a different world at Wrigley. Not that I am dissing Philly fans in any way. I would be dissing myself because I am a fan. I pay for my seats and support the team.

Thanks for stopping by my blog as well! (Exclaimation point only used in my appreciation for your stopping by my blog, no other pun intended or implied) :)

I've been to plenty of games in other cities and just about every time the home team put on a poor performance their own fans booed them. Including Wrigley Field.

At Dodger Stadium after a Ryan Howard grand slam that broke a tie in 2005, there were boos but more people instead immediately got up and left, even before Howard got to home plate. I spent the next five minutes waving goodbye and calling out things like "drive safely." I guess that would count as rude obnoxious behavior in your world, but those same Dodger fans were just as obnoxious towards a guy wearing a Donovan McNabb jersey.

So you don't boo. Good for you. You have the right.

The Phillies are booed more lustily at home by a larger quantity of people than they are on the road overall. How would you feel if you were a player and at our own park your booed more than the road?

I guess that's why Scott Rolen called St. Louis 'heaven' when he got there? Maybe not, it may be unrelated

I won't boo my own team, although I did let a slight boo out when I joined the chorus of fans booing Freddie Garcia a couple weeks ago, just to see what it felt like to boo my own player... but no I don't boo 99 percent of the time, and that's the way it should be towards your own team!

If I were a player and hitting .127 in June like Pat Burrell, I'd like to think I'd understand why people were booing.

If you want to be a shiny happy fan who doesn't give a damn that this mess of a franchise has put mostly slop on the field for nearly 125 years and nearly 10,000 losses, fine. Don't boo. Leave it to the rest of us who actually care.