Today, we at Downashore bring you our interview with Jen A. Miller, shore blogger and author of a new guide book to the (south) Jersey Shore, published as part of the Great Desinations series. Jen answers pressing questions, like best pizza, best beach and, yo, Jen how come LBI is not included?
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(And feel free to leave any other questions in the comments section. Jen will reply.)
DOWNASHORE: Hey Jen, congrats on the book. First question about my home turf of Downbeach. Custard's not Mento's? Really? Was this a tough call?
JEN: It was, as was picking which ice cream and pizza shops I'd feature throughout the book. I gained 10 pounds while working on the book to prove I did the research
DOWNASHORE: Can you now definitively say which shore town has the best pizza?
JEN: Well, I can say that my research confirmed Mack & Mancos is my favorite pizza (a decision that had nothing to do with the fact that they were open during the nor'easter last week!) But things like favorite pizza and favorite ice cream can be so personal and are usually tied to memories you have of going down the shore as a kid. So I included as many of those places as I could (and made to leave out those who had pizza that, well, stunk). For example, I really like Kohr Bros. frozen custard, but someone who grew up with Springer's in Stone Harbor would have a problem with that.
DOWNASHORE: Right, it's amazing how many shore memories revolve around food. I thought that was very sweet the way you wrote about your memories of
crabbing and eating crab with your grandfather. My own relatives from New York see a chicken parm and it makes them think of the beach, because of Jo Jo's in Ventnor. I think they think chicken parm is a new species of fish.
JEN: You're right -- not many people would associate "big pasta dinner" with "Jersey shore," but I do because that's what we would do with those crabs we caught: cook 'em up in an Italian feast. I also associate campfires with the shore because of my time spent at Avalon Campground -- again, not a memory to some people, but it is to me. The great thing about doing a Jersey Shore guide with this publisher is that they let me write about those kinds of things. You might not find such personal memories in another series.
DOWNASHORE: Yes, I really liked that in the book. The campgrounds are a part of the Jersey shore many people never see. And also, the trailer parks, especially that one in Strathmere, a trailer park with an ocean view. Only in Jersey? So along the way, did you discover new towns or places that you didn't know about before, or develop any new appreciation for particular places?
JEN: I never knew about Smithville, which is outside of Atlantic City. It's an interesting story -- how two people brought old houses there and arranged them into an outdoor shopping district. I developed a new appreciation for Cape May, which, as I kid, I labeled as "boring." My father was married there last weekend, and I could see my siblings have the same realization that there's a lot of fun things to do where before, if our parents took us to Cape May, we'd whine because we thought Ocean City or Wildwood was more fun (as any kid would probably think).
DOWNASHORE: The Cape May Jazz Festival, which takes place twice a year, is an amazing and under-appreciated happening. It never disappoints. The shore in some ways is such a moving target, businesses come and go. Was it hard to keep up?
JEN: I don't think a lot of people realize what a great jazz scene there is in Cape May -- heck, there's live jazz every Saturday night in the Boiler Room at Congress Hall. And it's GOOD.
It was very hard to keep up. I made changes to the manuscript the day before it went to press because I happened to be in Ocean City and happened to see that a bakery I wrote about had closed. There's a nice big photograph of a shop in Stone Harbor that closed in early 2008, after the book had been printed. There's only so much you can do. That's one of the reasons I started downtheshorewithjen.blogspot.com. It's a way to write about what's happening now.
DOWNASHORE: Given all the hubub about best beach, what's your conclusion? Do you have a favorite? And, more importantly, where did you get the best
coffee?
JEN: Best beach is another one of those personal things, and they're all so different, which is why I'm glad there's different categories in that survey. My favorite beach is in Avalon around 39th street. It's not too crowded with plenty of sand without having too much like you'll find at some spots in Wildwood. I also love Sunset Beach in Cape May for the obvious reason. If you've never watched a sunset there, it's a must do.
Best coffee? Same place I get it at home: Wawa!
DOWNASHORE: I part company with you on Wawa, Jen. I'm partial to the Fourth Street Cafe in Ocean City, even though it's on First Street now. The place in
Sea Isle's good too, Coffee.dot.comedy. Avalon coffee holds its own. So what's next, Jen, north Jersey beaches? And can you settle the whole Long Beach Island, north or south, controversy?
JEN: I can see your point -- Avalon Coffee's got good stuff, too, but I'm a complete Wawa girl!
I'm not sure what's next. I have a few possible book projects in the works, but I'm not sure which one will get the greenlight yet. I've been spending some time at the North Jersey shore, and I like it, but I don't think I have the same drive to do an entire guide book on it because, well, it's a lot of work. The South Jersey Shore is my favorite place in the world, which is one of the reasons why I've been able to read and write and read some more about the area -- not sure if I'd feel the same way above the Atlantic City Expressway.
The LBI question is an excellent one, and it's one I talk about in "New Jersey: The Movie." I consider it North Jersey for a few reasons. One, some people call it a 'poor man's Hamptons.' Two, it's above that Atlantic City Expressway, which I think is what marks North from South Jersey beaches. Historically, people from the Philadelphia area went to towns Atlantic City and south because that's where the rail lines were. Even though most of us drive to the shore (despite $4/gallon gas prices) we still go down instead of across the state. There are a lot more Philadelphia/South Jersey people in LBI now, but I'd still label it central or north.
DOWNASHORE: LBI is ours Jen. Though my New York cousins might disagree. Poor man's Hamptons? To us, it's a rich man's Avalon. Anyway, thanks Jen, and
good luck with the book. We'll see you at the beach.
JEN: Thanks so much Amy! That LBI question is one that comes up ALL THE TIME. Thanks for letting me state my case :-)
Comments (12)
Aww, two of my favorite Shore people in one place!
My .02: Route 195 is the North/South Jersey line. So, say, Ocean Grove is North Jersey but LBI isn't.
Posted by Citizen Mom | May 21, 2008 11:23 AM
Posted on May 21, 2008 11:23
I live in Delran and grew up going to LBI. Never Wildwood, never Avalon, never Sea Isle, etc. My grandparents had a tiny house at one point in Ship Bottom and I was too young to beg them not to sell it.
There WAS a period of time, probably about 3 years, when we rented a place in Ocean City. I think my parents wanted a change and thought the boardwalk would occupy my sister and I during our teen years. But we always came back to LBI. I consider LBI South Jersey - and FYI I can't stand it when I hear the New Yorkers talking on the beach...sorry, but they're annoying! Seeing all those Yankee and Met fans makes me want to puke! Just my opinion...
Posted by Coach Mare | May 21, 2008 2:18 PM
Posted on May 21, 2008 14:18
Citizen Mom: a lot of people use that as the dividing line, but I think it's a more complex issue. Check out this blog about it -- it's great: http://nsjersey.blogspot.com/
I think the filmmaker's theory about "which sports teams do you cheer for" fits. But that's just me!
Coach Mare: Good point -- we got a lot of Mets and Yankees fans in Wildwood, too. That's why I hit that beach in Avalon, where I hear no one ;-)
Posted by Jen A. Miller | May 21, 2008 2:28 PM
Posted on May 21, 2008 14:28
Coach Mare: Yes, the New York thing is an influence that's been felt more and more over the last few years at the south Jersey shore. (I've also found a LOT of Yankees fans among year-round locals in Margate and Ventnor, I'm not sure why, I guess the Garden State Parkway thing.) I guess the tourists from New York have figured out it's a great deal compared to the Hamptons. Plus, they like the water ice and the hoagies. Sometimes on my block in Ventnor, it's all New York plates. And that's just the nuns across the street, from Blauvelt...
Meanwhile, LBI is like ground zero in the North-South dispute, our Mason-Dixon line, where is that exactly, at which beach does Philly give way to New York?
Posted by Amy | May 21, 2008 2:39 PM
Posted on May 21, 2008 14:39
The Jersey Shore is the missionary position of vacation spots.
Posted by Jeff W | May 21, 2008 5:18 PM
Posted on May 21, 2008 17:18
Re the whole LBI thing. While it's true that LBI is right on the north-south dividing line, its population (year rounders, not the summer crowds) definitely is a South Jersey crowd. I know this, growing up in Cinnaminson, spending the entire summer at my grand-parents' place in Harvey Cedars, and then living in HC for two long (cold winters!) years. No matter how many Noo Yoorkers buy palaces in Loveladies, LBI is South Jersey.
Posted by rob M | May 21, 2008 10:27 PM
Posted on May 21, 2008 22:27
Rob M. - I think it's in the divide. In researching the book, it didn't seem fit in with the other South Jersey Shore towns.
Could we call it central?
Posted by Jen A. Miller | May 22, 2008 7:35 AM
Posted on May 22, 2008 07:35
Jen, repeat after us: LBI is South Jersey, old war munitions turning up in our sand castles and all. (Don't dig in Surf City this weekend, peoples!)
Look, it's narrow, exclusive, quite pretty and dramatic in spots and the beaches are almost impossible to access in various places unless you own million dollar property along the private access roads, all of which are given cute names. You can leave your flipflops and wagons at the edge. Plus, there are some excellent roadside seafood places. Is there something about all of that doesn't fit South Jersey?
Posted by amy | May 22, 2008 7:47 AM
Posted on May 22, 2008 07:47
Sorry, guys, I still disagree. Respectfully, of course!
Posted by Jen A. Miller | May 22, 2008 10:05 AM
Posted on May 22, 2008 10:05
Rt 195 is the north south border for most people in Jersey
Posted by Belmar Days | May 26, 2008 5:29 PM
Posted on May 26, 2008 17:29
For those of us who live in Burlington County, LBI is the shore. Cape May and Atlantic County are for Philadelphians. The Hamptons are for New Yorkers, but LBI is for New Jerseyans--North, South or Central.
Posted by Allan Campbell | June 8, 2008 10:06 PM
Posted on June 8, 2008 22:06
I agree that the divide is somewhere north of LBI, which is the closest shorepoint for Burlington Coand some of Camden Co--Medford is 37 miles away, Cherry hill less than 45. I was introduced to LBI by people who had summer homes there since the 40's and were from Germantown and Villanova. IT IS SOUTH JERSEY.
Alas, the decision to change that seems to be out of our hands. When the Phillies play and the game is carried on CW (whatever that it) instead of CN8, Comcast doesn't even carry it on LBI. I can find the Yankees on 4 stations and no Phillies--it's maddening! We have also lost channels 3 and 10 thanks to Comcast, which is absurd....the Philly weather people often mention Surf City or Beach Haven, but doya think the NY CBS and NBC affiliates EVER mention LBI weather?--it doesn't even hit their radar screen!
It's ironic to me that The Inquirer was interested in this story, since they've also decided for us by not posting LBI real estate transactions when they list the shore transactions..so where do I find them, the NY Post? I don't think so.
Finally, just go there and "FEEL" the place. It is much more like Avalon or Stone Harbor, where I went as a kid than, say, Seaside Park--on the next island north and with a much different "northern" feel.
We can play around talking about this, but for those of us who actually live there, the shift to the North way of thinking is painful.
Posted by Pat Dengler | June 8, 2008 11:14 PM
Posted on June 8, 2008 23:14